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davereap late review... this is a great model, the tube mount was not so successful, it needed more downthrust .. simply fit the internal horizontal brace and a foam block on which you fix the motor.. a 1400 3s and a hextronic, or sunnysky motor are enough to get the COG and give power to get it up.. It glides well and on its first outing it caught a thermal and went very high.., full down and left had it spiralling down slowly with no stress...definitely a recommended model..... davereap