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Purplesky33 @silentjack78 hi there I did a second build, have both kvs 19000 25000.19000 is best for indoor use and 25 kv for outdoor on calm days, but if your a good pilot there's no saying you can't fly 25kv indoors aswell just abit sensitive on throttle but can set caps in betaflight hope this helps. Thanks PURPLESKY